1 00:00:01,290 --> 00:00:16,950 [Music] 2 00:00:21,750 --> 00:00:19,189 all right welcome back fade to black i 3 00:00:24,150 --> 00:00:21,760 am your host jimmy church 4 00:00:25,670 --> 00:00:24,160 tonight sonja grace is here 5 00:00:28,950 --> 00:00:25,680 tomorrow night 6 00:00:31,189 --> 00:00:28,960 james fox we'll be talking about his 7 00:00:32,870 --> 00:00:31,199 movie release that is coming up 8 00:00:34,709 --> 00:00:32,880 thursday night is another fader night 9 00:00:37,750 --> 00:00:34,719 with open lines all night long but 10 00:00:39,670 --> 00:00:37,760 tonight it's all about sonia grace 11 00:00:42,549 --> 00:00:39,680 that's right sani is an author she's a 12 00:00:44,229 --> 00:00:42,559 mystic healer for over 30 years has been 13 00:00:46,229 --> 00:00:44,239 offering her clients both in the united 14 00:00:47,990 --> 00:00:46,239 states and abroad immediate stability 15 00:00:49,750 --> 00:00:48,000 clarity and guidance 16 00:00:51,750 --> 00:00:49,760 through her healing counseling and 17 00:00:53,670 --> 00:00:51,760 spiritual processing sonia has a wide 18 00:00:57,590 --> 00:00:53,680 variety of talent 19 00:00:59,750 --> 00:00:57,600 to choose not only uh how she accesses 20 00:01:02,310 --> 00:00:59,760 her ability to channel and communicate 21 00:01:04,310 --> 00:01:02,320 but also with the divine she sees and 22 00:01:06,070 --> 00:01:04,320 receives messages from loved ones who 23 00:01:07,670 --> 00:01:06,080 have crossed over and offers a venue for 24 00:01:10,630 --> 00:01:07,680 healing in this world and the spirit 25 00:01:13,030 --> 00:01:10,640 world her ability to read and clear the 26 00:01:16,230 --> 00:01:13,040 karmic threads to past lives helps 27 00:01:18,630 --> 00:01:16,240 clients heal lifetimes of patterns she 28 00:01:21,030 --> 00:01:18,640 is an energy surgeon and helps clients 29 00:01:23,429 --> 00:01:21,040 to identify where the discomfort is in 30 00:01:25,590 --> 00:01:23,439 the physical emotional mental or 31 00:01:27,990 --> 00:01:25,600 spiritual bodies tonight we're going to 32 00:01:30,230 --> 00:01:28,000 discuss her latest book it's called 33 00:01:32,710 --> 00:01:30,240 dancing with raven and bear a book of 34 00:01:34,350 --> 00:01:32,720 earth medicine and animal magic of 35 00:01:36,350 --> 00:01:34,360 course her website is 36 00:01:38,069 --> 00:01:36,360 sonyagrace.com and the links are over at 37 00:01:40,550 --> 00:01:38,079 jimmychurchradio.com i'd like to welcome 38 00:01:43,109 --> 00:01:40,560 back to fade to black sonia gray sonya 39 00:01:45,109 --> 00:01:43,119 good evening how are you yay 40 00:01:47,830 --> 00:01:45,119 i'm just thrilled to be here thanks for 41 00:01:50,550 --> 00:01:47,840 having me back yeah you know and 42 00:01:53,030 --> 00:01:50,560 thank you uh for being on the show we're 43 00:01:56,310 --> 00:01:53,040 you know just so excited and and then we 44 00:01:58,310 --> 00:01:56,320 got the news today about stanton and i 45 00:02:00,550 --> 00:01:58,320 don't want that i don't want to put a 46 00:02:02,069 --> 00:02:00,560 damper on a great show tonight but you 47 00:02:03,510 --> 00:02:02,079 know what that's not the way stanton 48 00:02:05,030 --> 00:02:03,520 would want it 49 00:02:07,109 --> 00:02:05,040 you know let's celebrate the life of 50 00:02:10,070 --> 00:02:07,119 santa but uh you know the news was 51 00:02:13,510 --> 00:02:10,080 pretty sad uh wasn't it yeah it was very 52 00:02:14,630 --> 00:02:13,520 sad and you know he left a tremendous 53 00:02:16,949 --> 00:02:14,640 legacy 54 00:02:18,790 --> 00:02:16,959 to the ufo community and i know 55 00:02:21,990 --> 00:02:18,800 everybody's really grateful to him for 56 00:02:25,270 --> 00:02:22,000 that but i'm very sad that he passed i i 57 00:02:27,830 --> 00:02:25,280 i'll share a really really really funny 58 00:02:28,790 --> 00:02:27,840 stanton story it's short but it's very 59 00:02:31,990 --> 00:02:28,800 funny 60 00:02:34,150 --> 00:02:32,000 he uh he had his heart attack right okay 61 00:02:36,630 --> 00:02:34,160 that's not funny but he 62 00:02:38,790 --> 00:02:36,640 had his heart attack and then a few 63 00:02:41,589 --> 00:02:38,800 months after that after he had his heart 64 00:02:44,630 --> 00:02:41,599 attack he's at contact in the desert 65 00:02:46,630 --> 00:02:44,640 right and it's hot and it's dusty 66 00:02:50,150 --> 00:02:46,640 and and there he is he's in shape and 67 00:02:51,990 --> 00:02:50,160 it's he's all good but he's on my panel 68 00:02:54,550 --> 00:02:52,000 and we start the panel 69 00:02:57,990 --> 00:02:54,560 and he's not there right 70 00:03:01,030 --> 00:02:58,000 he's not there and we've literally sonia 71 00:03:03,030 --> 00:03:01,040 we've got you know 1500 2 000 people in 72 00:03:04,390 --> 00:03:03,040 front of us right just massive in the 73 00:03:06,470 --> 00:03:04,400 outdoor auditorium 74 00:03:08,710 --> 00:03:06,480 and i'm introducing everybody and then i 75 00:03:10,309 --> 00:03:08,720 look to my left and here's stanton 76 00:03:13,509 --> 00:03:10,319 coming down the trail 77 00:03:15,589 --> 00:03:13,519 you know doing his best coming uh you 78 00:03:17,509 --> 00:03:15,599 know and he comes on stage 79 00:03:20,070 --> 00:03:17,519 what do you say at that point 80 00:03:21,910 --> 00:03:20,080 man is 80 years old right right 80 years 81 00:03:24,470 --> 00:03:21,920 old just had a heart attack 82 00:03:26,070 --> 00:03:24,480 and and he comes up sits down and i go 83 00:03:28,470 --> 00:03:26,080 stanton you made it he goes man i just 84 00:03:30,869 --> 00:03:28,480 had a heart attack man give give an old 85 00:03:33,990 --> 00:03:30,879 man a break give me a face yeah i was 86 00:03:37,030 --> 00:03:34,000 just like and the crowd just erupts and 87 00:03:39,589 --> 00:03:37,040 applauds but yeah just that's great just 88 00:03:42,630 --> 00:03:39,599 an amazing guy an amazing guy 89 00:03:45,110 --> 00:03:42,640 so yeah you're right an amazing body of 90 00:03:47,509 --> 00:03:45,120 material that is left here and and we 91 00:03:50,550 --> 00:03:47,519 will always have that so there you go 92 00:03:52,789 --> 00:03:50,560 yeah all right really good so uh here we 93 00:03:55,350 --> 00:03:52,799 go let's let's actually 94 00:03:56,470 --> 00:03:55,360 uh start here uh let's start with the 95 00:03:58,070 --> 00:03:56,480 new book 96 00:04:00,149 --> 00:03:58,080 and i 97 00:04:02,390 --> 00:04:00,159 uh i'm anxious to learn something 98 00:04:05,110 --> 00:04:02,400 tonight that's the first thing but the 99 00:04:06,710 --> 00:04:05,120 title of the book says it all doesn't it 100 00:04:08,309 --> 00:04:06,720 it does and you know i want you to know 101 00:04:11,910 --> 00:04:08,319 that while you were saying all that i 102 00:04:15,670 --> 00:04:13,670 i heard the soundtrack going on while 103 00:04:18,310 --> 00:04:15,680 you were talking it was great 104 00:04:20,789 --> 00:04:18,320 okay back to dancing with raven and bear 105 00:04:23,270 --> 00:04:20,799 okay no i have not been smoking anything 106 00:04:25,350 --> 00:04:23,280 in case you listeners out there 107 00:04:27,990 --> 00:04:25,360 wondering my state of mind i'm just very 108 00:04:30,629 --> 00:04:28,000 happy to be on the show and i know some 109 00:04:32,790 --> 00:04:30,639 of you have talked to me in sessions and 110 00:04:35,189 --> 00:04:32,800 i just want to say hello to all of you 111 00:04:36,710 --> 00:04:35,199 because um it's exciting i'm back on 112 00:04:39,110 --> 00:04:36,720 fade to black 113 00:04:42,070 --> 00:04:39,120 so dancing with raven and bear is this 114 00:04:44,950 --> 00:04:42,080 really really important book 115 00:04:48,070 --> 00:04:44,960 the reason it's important is because 116 00:04:50,790 --> 00:04:48,080 sometimes when we need to learn 117 00:04:52,629 --> 00:04:50,800 something we need to like get it 118 00:04:55,430 --> 00:04:52,639 and we just can't get it because we have 119 00:04:56,870 --> 00:04:55,440 resistance we're holding ourselves back 120 00:04:58,790 --> 00:04:56,880 like now i don't really want to deal 121 00:04:59,590 --> 00:04:58,800 with that now i don't want to talk about 122 00:05:02,070 --> 00:04:59,600 that 123 00:05:04,950 --> 00:05:02,080 sometimes when we hear a story and it's 124 00:05:07,510 --> 00:05:04,960 a story that's sort of mystical and you 125 00:05:10,710 --> 00:05:07,520 know takes you in sort of into this 126 00:05:13,110 --> 00:05:10,720 different state of consciousness 127 00:05:15,510 --> 00:05:13,120 then we open up and we get the message 128 00:05:18,469 --> 00:05:15,520 and that's why i wrote the book is 129 00:05:22,710 --> 00:05:18,479 because i talk to people in sessions 130 00:05:25,590 --> 00:05:22,720 all day long and i do my best to get 131 00:05:27,670 --> 00:05:25,600 through those hard places where people 132 00:05:29,590 --> 00:05:27,680 don't quite want to 133 00:05:32,150 --> 00:05:29,600 you know open the door and say okay i'll 134 00:05:34,310 --> 00:05:32,160 deal with it you know and i wrote this 135 00:05:37,990 --> 00:05:34,320 book for them you know this is that that 136 00:05:40,469 --> 00:05:38,000 opening where you can read a story and 137 00:05:43,270 --> 00:05:40,479 really go into that story and sort of 138 00:05:45,189 --> 00:05:43,280 experience a transformation 139 00:05:46,469 --> 00:05:45,199 well let's talk about raven and bear who 140 00:05:48,870 --> 00:05:46,479 are they 141 00:05:51,029 --> 00:05:48,880 well they're they're two characters 142 00:05:54,469 --> 00:05:51,039 throughout the book bear is a medicine 143 00:05:56,070 --> 00:05:54,479 man and raven is his sort of sidekick 144 00:05:58,870 --> 00:05:56,080 trickster buddy 145 00:06:00,710 --> 00:05:58,880 and um it most of the stories take place 146 00:06:02,710 --> 00:06:00,720 you know in in the woods in the 147 00:06:05,749 --> 00:06:02,720 wilderness and you know there's 148 00:06:09,430 --> 00:06:05,759 different there's different um 149 00:06:11,749 --> 00:06:09,440 individual you know short stories about 150 00:06:13,510 --> 00:06:11,759 these two characters and i 151 00:06:15,430 --> 00:06:13,520 i have still you know the first the very 152 00:06:18,070 --> 00:06:15,440 first one is on grounding you know 153 00:06:20,309 --> 00:06:18,080 grounding your energy and then 154 00:06:24,390 --> 00:06:20,319 you know there's releasing pain there's 155 00:06:25,350 --> 00:06:24,400 a chapter on power dreaming the burden 156 00:06:28,390 --> 00:06:25,360 death 157 00:06:30,070 --> 00:06:28,400 the illusion the medicine path love the 158 00:06:31,590 --> 00:06:30,080 river's edge i mean there's just all 159 00:06:34,230 --> 00:06:31,600 kinds of 160 00:06:36,790 --> 00:06:34,240 uh really interesting 161 00:06:39,029 --> 00:06:36,800 um messages to each of these stories and 162 00:06:41,270 --> 00:06:39,039 they take place with you know these 163 00:06:44,150 --> 00:06:41,280 animals baron raven talking to each 164 00:06:45,749 --> 00:06:44,160 other and encountering other things on 165 00:06:47,029 --> 00:06:45,759 their way 166 00:06:49,110 --> 00:06:47,039 and it's it's 167 00:06:51,590 --> 00:06:49,120 it's a fun book i actually just did an 168 00:06:52,790 --> 00:06:51,600 audio recording of the book in los 169 00:06:54,710 --> 00:06:52,800 angeles 170 00:06:57,189 --> 00:06:54,720 uh when we were all there uh for 171 00:06:59,110 --> 00:06:57,199 conscious life expo so i'm i'm really 172 00:07:00,230 --> 00:06:59,120 excited that's coming out 173 00:07:02,390 --> 00:07:00,240 how can 174 00:07:04,629 --> 00:07:02,400 we when we talk about 175 00:07:07,510 --> 00:07:04,639 uh both of these subjects like earth 176 00:07:10,790 --> 00:07:07,520 medicine and and animal magic and and 177 00:07:13,670 --> 00:07:10,800 bear being a medicine man 178 00:07:15,510 --> 00:07:13,680 it's not really metaphor here in that 179 00:07:16,469 --> 00:07:15,520 there are 180 00:07:19,510 --> 00:07:16,479 things 181 00:07:20,870 --> 00:07:19,520 on this planet that mother earth has 182 00:07:22,870 --> 00:07:20,880 given us 183 00:07:25,990 --> 00:07:22,880 uh for ourselves 184 00:07:28,469 --> 00:07:26,000 and not necessarily uh 185 00:07:30,469 --> 00:07:28,479 big pharma you know 186 00:07:32,790 --> 00:07:30,479 like i said it's it's not metaphor this 187 00:07:33,909 --> 00:07:32,800 is actually a direct statement 188 00:07:36,070 --> 00:07:33,919 right 189 00:07:37,350 --> 00:07:36,080 i get it and i think that this is really 190 00:07:40,870 --> 00:07:37,360 important 191 00:07:42,309 --> 00:07:40,880 that we you know i mean gosh 192 00:07:44,629 --> 00:07:42,319 you and i can have a really long 193 00:07:47,270 --> 00:07:44,639 conversation right now about aliens 194 00:07:51,110 --> 00:07:47,280 because aliens for the most part exist 195 00:07:53,589 --> 00:07:51,120 in the unseen world and most of the time 196 00:07:56,469 --> 00:07:53,599 they're either really good at staying 197 00:07:59,670 --> 00:07:56,479 not seen or they actually transform from 198 00:08:02,390 --> 00:07:59,680 physical form to an unseen form i've 199 00:08:04,390 --> 00:08:02,400 written a book basically about a 200 00:08:06,390 --> 00:08:04,400 relationship between 201 00:08:09,350 --> 00:08:06,400 bear and raven and various other 202 00:08:12,230 --> 00:08:09,360 characters in the book that that fall 203 00:08:15,110 --> 00:08:12,240 into that sort of shaman realm of the 204 00:08:17,510 --> 00:08:15,120 unseen world you know you you've seen 205 00:08:19,510 --> 00:08:17,520 that far side commercial where the the 206 00:08:21,990 --> 00:08:19,520 people are driving away and all the cows 207 00:08:23,830 --> 00:08:22,000 start talking to each other again yes 208 00:08:25,189 --> 00:08:23,840 yeah it's kind of like that it's like 209 00:08:27,350 --> 00:08:25,199 it's like there's so many there's so 210 00:08:29,990 --> 00:08:27,360 much magic in this world there's so many 211 00:08:31,029 --> 00:08:30,000 things that happen that are truly 212 00:08:32,949 --> 00:08:31,039 magical 213 00:08:35,430 --> 00:08:32,959 and and we can scratch our heads and go 214 00:08:37,269 --> 00:08:35,440 wow how'd that happen and you know and 215 00:08:39,350 --> 00:08:37,279 then and then we distrust it later and 216 00:08:40,790 --> 00:08:39,360 we don't really believe it and you know 217 00:08:42,949 --> 00:08:40,800 and next thing you know you've forgotten 218 00:08:44,710 --> 00:08:42,959 that that even happened but it was truly 219 00:08:46,990 --> 00:08:44,720 magical at the time 220 00:08:49,269 --> 00:08:47,000 and and were were a little 221 00:08:51,829 --> 00:08:49,279 desensitized to 222 00:08:54,150 --> 00:08:51,839 trusting that to really trusting what 223 00:08:56,550 --> 00:08:54,160 that animal magic is what what that 224 00:08:57,509 --> 00:08:56,560 earth medicine really is 225 00:09:01,750 --> 00:08:57,519 why 226 00:09:04,630 --> 00:09:01,760 that so many now our community 227 00:09:07,030 --> 00:09:04,640 they get it sonia they get it they 228 00:09:09,910 --> 00:09:07,040 totally get it and if they don't get it 229 00:09:13,350 --> 00:09:09,920 they're trying to get it right they have 230 00:09:15,910 --> 00:09:13,360 an open mind and they know that things 231 00:09:16,790 --> 00:09:15,920 are not what they are supposed to be 232 00:09:18,550 --> 00:09:16,800 right 233 00:09:20,150 --> 00:09:18,560 we get that but 234 00:09:23,430 --> 00:09:20,160 the vast 235 00:09:26,310 --> 00:09:23,440 rest of the world doesn't get it 236 00:09:28,389 --> 00:09:26,320 they don't get it they there is a whole 237 00:09:29,670 --> 00:09:28,399 nother life out there 238 00:09:31,990 --> 00:09:29,680 but 239 00:09:34,630 --> 00:09:32,000 what's the deal is it that they want to 240 00:09:37,990 --> 00:09:34,640 fight it or that it's easier for them to 241 00:09:40,710 --> 00:09:38,000 just plod through life uh without a 242 00:09:44,389 --> 00:09:40,720 sense of wonderment 243 00:09:46,310 --> 00:09:44,399 well okay um i i think that 244 00:09:47,590 --> 00:09:46,320 first and foremost 245 00:09:49,430 --> 00:09:47,600 i'm going to start at the at the 246 00:09:51,190 --> 00:09:49,440 beginning 247 00:09:53,910 --> 00:09:51,200 from the time we're in the womb until 248 00:09:56,870 --> 00:09:53,920 we're three years old we're imprinting 249 00:09:59,509 --> 00:09:56,880 all of our parents psychology good bad 250 00:10:01,750 --> 00:09:59,519 and otherwise we imprint all of it and 251 00:10:03,590 --> 00:10:01,760 during that time from the time we're in 252 00:10:05,910 --> 00:10:03,600 the womb until three 253 00:10:08,230 --> 00:10:05,920 we have different emotional wounds that 254 00:10:10,470 --> 00:10:08,240 happen you know mom leaves goes to the 255 00:10:12,550 --> 00:10:10,480 store we feel like we've been abandoned 256 00:10:14,710 --> 00:10:12,560 because we don't have the concept of 257 00:10:17,110 --> 00:10:14,720 what 30 minutes means 258 00:10:20,389 --> 00:10:17,120 so so we have these emotional wounds and 259 00:10:22,949 --> 00:10:20,399 these emotional wounds are attached to 260 00:10:25,910 --> 00:10:22,959 our karma because our karma is 261 00:10:28,230 --> 00:10:25,920 unresolved emotional wounds so that 262 00:10:31,110 --> 00:10:28,240 abandonment that the child felt at you 263 00:10:33,430 --> 00:10:31,120 know one years old is triggering all of 264 00:10:34,389 --> 00:10:33,440 the abandonment in the past lives as 265 00:10:37,190 --> 00:10:34,399 well 266 00:10:38,949 --> 00:10:37,200 so as that takes place then the child 267 00:10:40,870 --> 00:10:38,959 starts to get older 268 00:10:43,509 --> 00:10:40,880 four or five years old they're starting 269 00:10:45,670 --> 00:10:43,519 to cycle patterns they're starting to 270 00:10:47,750 --> 00:10:45,680 actually cycle 271 00:10:50,389 --> 00:10:47,760 these emotional wounds and we then 272 00:10:53,350 --> 00:10:50,399 become adults and we have a more 273 00:10:56,150 --> 00:10:53,360 sophisticated version of that pattern 274 00:10:58,310 --> 00:10:56,160 and cycle that goes on through our lives 275 00:11:02,389 --> 00:10:58,320 until we deal with it till we actually 276 00:11:03,110 --> 00:11:02,399 sit down and do the work and go inside 277 00:11:05,269 --> 00:11:03,120 and 278 00:11:06,949 --> 00:11:05,279 you know process what these emotional 279 00:11:09,430 --> 00:11:06,959 wounds are 280 00:11:11,990 --> 00:11:09,440 and again going back to the book this is 281 00:11:13,030 --> 00:11:12,000 why i wrote this book is because some 282 00:11:15,269 --> 00:11:13,040 people 283 00:11:17,990 --> 00:11:15,279 don't want to look at their pain or 284 00:11:20,630 --> 00:11:18,000 their wounds or what happened to them in 285 00:11:23,110 --> 00:11:20,640 childhood some people would rather you 286 00:11:25,430 --> 00:11:23,120 know have another drink and not think 287 00:11:28,069 --> 00:11:25,440 about it but their pain body keeps 288 00:11:31,990 --> 00:11:28,079 getting bigger and bigger and bigger and 289 00:11:34,870 --> 00:11:32,000 so their story of pain becomes more it's 290 00:11:36,870 --> 00:11:34,880 told more often you know i'm sure all of 291 00:11:37,910 --> 00:11:36,880 you listeners have had friends or people 292 00:11:39,910 --> 00:11:37,920 that you know 293 00:11:42,870 --> 00:11:39,920 they always go back you know you 294 00:11:44,790 --> 00:11:42,880 remember what happened to me in 1985 295 00:11:46,230 --> 00:11:44,800 blah blah blah there's this whole pain 296 00:11:48,310 --> 00:11:46,240 story that they tell 297 00:11:49,430 --> 00:11:48,320 you know that's what they're identifying 298 00:11:52,389 --> 00:11:49,440 with that's 299 00:11:55,829 --> 00:11:52,399 that's the cycle and the patterns of 300 00:11:59,269 --> 00:11:55,839 these emotional wounds so so it to me at 301 00:12:00,310 --> 00:11:59,279 this point in time it's very important 302 00:12:05,030 --> 00:12:00,320 that we 303 00:12:07,750 --> 00:12:05,040 get into 304 00:12:10,230 --> 00:12:07,760 the the deeper part of our psyche and 305 00:12:11,910 --> 00:12:10,240 what what's going on with the you know 306 00:12:14,710 --> 00:12:11,920 with these emotional wounds that have 307 00:12:17,269 --> 00:12:14,720 now transformed into the adult version 308 00:12:19,110 --> 00:12:17,279 and and we you know we process it we get 309 00:12:21,590 --> 00:12:19,120 that stuff out 310 00:12:23,350 --> 00:12:21,600 you know we have no problems uh you know 311 00:12:25,430 --> 00:12:23,360 drinking i was listening to your 312 00:12:27,509 --> 00:12:25,440 commercials you know drinking tea that's 313 00:12:30,629 --> 00:12:27,519 going to clean us out well it's the same 314 00:12:33,829 --> 00:12:30,639 thing emotionally we need to clean out 315 00:12:37,590 --> 00:12:33,839 and that's it see and that is exactly my 316 00:12:40,230 --> 00:12:37,600 point when i when i say that so many 317 00:12:43,829 --> 00:12:40,240 don't wonder right don't have 318 00:12:44,949 --> 00:12:43,839 imagination anymore that they want to go 319 00:12:46,790 --> 00:12:44,959 to 320 00:12:49,030 --> 00:12:46,800 a 2d 321 00:12:50,629 --> 00:12:49,040 fixing of their system whether it is 322 00:12:53,990 --> 00:12:50,639 drinking or 323 00:12:56,470 --> 00:12:54,000 lashing out in anger hating the world 324 00:12:58,949 --> 00:12:56,480 whatever it is but they don't understand 325 00:13:00,629 --> 00:12:58,959 that there is an an easier way to go 326 00:13:03,910 --> 00:13:00,639 about this that it's actually not 327 00:13:07,350 --> 00:13:03,920 everybody else probably it's it's inside 328 00:13:10,069 --> 00:13:07,360 of you yes exactly because you know 329 00:13:12,870 --> 00:13:10,079 while while we're out in the world 330 00:13:14,470 --> 00:13:12,880 talking and dealing with each other 331 00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:14,480 you know for the most part we're in 332 00:13:19,110 --> 00:13:16,639 projection we're projecting on to the 333 00:13:20,470 --> 00:13:19,120 other person how we feel 334 00:13:22,150 --> 00:13:20,480 you know or we're totally in 335 00:13:24,310 --> 00:13:22,160 transference and we're talking to that 336 00:13:26,389 --> 00:13:24,320 person because suddenly they became our 337 00:13:28,310 --> 00:13:26,399 mother or our father 338 00:13:29,990 --> 00:13:28,320 so so we're we're 339 00:13:32,550 --> 00:13:30,000 you know we're really stepping up to the 340 00:13:35,269 --> 00:13:32,560 plate to go to bat with with a whole lot 341 00:13:37,990 --> 00:13:35,279 of filtering systems in front of us and 342 00:13:40,949 --> 00:13:38,000 it takes a lot of work it takes a lot of 343 00:13:43,190 --> 00:13:40,959 you know dedication to that work to 344 00:13:46,629 --> 00:13:43,200 start lifting those filters so we can 345 00:13:48,470 --> 00:13:46,639 see the world a little clearer and and 346 00:13:51,350 --> 00:13:48,480 we're you know we're really witnessing 347 00:13:52,629 --> 00:13:51,360 this on such a grand scale right now of 348 00:13:54,389 --> 00:13:52,639 people being 349 00:13:57,509 --> 00:13:54,399 um you know having 350 00:13:59,990 --> 00:13:57,519 various filters and pairs of glasses on 351 00:14:01,829 --> 00:14:00,000 you know that they're not seeing the way 352 00:14:04,069 --> 00:14:01,839 that you might see reality or the way 353 00:14:07,269 --> 00:14:04,079 that someone else sees the reality 354 00:14:08,949 --> 00:14:07,279 and part of this has to do with the fact 355 00:14:10,310 --> 00:14:08,959 that we've moved into the fifth 356 00:14:13,030 --> 00:14:10,320 dimension 357 00:14:14,550 --> 00:14:13,040 we are in it we left the fourth 358 00:14:17,269 --> 00:14:14,560 dimension at the end of the mayan 359 00:14:20,389 --> 00:14:17,279 calendar so we are in this higher 360 00:14:22,629 --> 00:14:20,399 frequency higher vibration every person 361 00:14:25,430 --> 00:14:22,639 that calls me i kid you not 362 00:14:27,350 --> 00:14:25,440 complains and says i have high pitched 363 00:14:30,470 --> 00:14:27,360 ringing in my ears 364 00:14:32,949 --> 00:14:30,480 and i cannot say this enough this is the 365 00:14:34,949 --> 00:14:32,959 vibration of this fifth dimension that 366 00:14:37,509 --> 00:14:34,959 everybody is tuning into 367 00:14:39,829 --> 00:14:37,519 i call it the symphony because to me it 368 00:14:42,069 --> 00:14:39,839 sounds like the beginning of the string 369 00:14:44,389 --> 00:14:42,079 section starting to play the strings 370 00:14:46,629 --> 00:14:44,399 when i have this ringing in my ears 371 00:14:48,629 --> 00:14:46,639 and i know but you know 20 year olds as 372 00:14:51,030 --> 00:14:48,639 well as you know 80 year olds who have 373 00:14:53,750 --> 00:14:51,040 ringing in their ears i cannot believe 374 00:14:55,990 --> 00:14:53,760 that the world massively has tinnitus 375 00:14:58,629 --> 00:14:56,000 i really feel and you know my guides 376 00:15:01,110 --> 00:14:58,639 have told me this is the vibration of 377 00:15:02,310 --> 00:15:01,120 this fifth dimension and we're literally 378 00:15:04,870 --> 00:15:02,320 hearing it 379 00:15:05,829 --> 00:15:04,880 and so as people are navigating this new 380 00:15:08,069 --> 00:15:05,839 energy 381 00:15:10,230 --> 00:15:08,079 we've never been here before we've never 382 00:15:12,389 --> 00:15:10,240 been in this higher frequency 383 00:15:15,110 --> 00:15:12,399 and it makes sort of doing that inner 384 00:15:17,110 --> 00:15:15,120 work all the more important because 385 00:15:19,509 --> 00:15:17,120 because we have to 386 00:15:21,910 --> 00:15:19,519 get our energy to match the fifth 387 00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:21,920 dimension energy it's not going to come 388 00:15:25,430 --> 00:15:23,600 and match ours 389 00:15:28,790 --> 00:15:25,440 so we have to do we have to really do a 390 00:15:30,470 --> 00:15:28,800 lot of work here and you know as 391 00:15:33,269 --> 00:15:30,480 as you know you know there's a lot of 392 00:15:36,230 --> 00:15:33,279 people leaving the planet and um part of 393 00:15:37,670 --> 00:15:36,240 that leaving the planet wave 394 00:15:39,750 --> 00:15:37,680 is um 395 00:15:41,189 --> 00:15:39,760 you know there's there it's like now i 396 00:15:43,269 --> 00:15:41,199 don't want to do it 397 00:15:46,710 --> 00:15:43,279 i don't want to raise my frequency and 398 00:15:49,670 --> 00:15:46,720 and why is it uh it's always why right 399 00:15:51,990 --> 00:15:49,680 that's right it's always but why is it 400 00:15:56,310 --> 00:15:52,000 that 401 00:15:57,110 --> 00:15:56,320 recognizing 402 00:16:01,269 --> 00:15:57,120 uh 403 00:16:03,189 --> 00:16:01,279 something that we have to work on 404 00:16:06,310 --> 00:16:03,199 ourselves but people are afraid to put 405 00:16:08,150 --> 00:16:06,320 in the effort one and two 406 00:16:11,990 --> 00:16:08,160 for those that are enlightened and 407 00:16:16,150 --> 00:16:12,000 recognize the 40 to 5d shift that are 408 00:16:19,430 --> 00:16:16,160 expecting somebody else to do the fixing 409 00:16:20,389 --> 00:16:19,440 that we're going to be rescued instead 410 00:16:22,550 --> 00:16:20,399 of 411 00:16:24,310 --> 00:16:22,560 actually buttoning down and doing the 412 00:16:25,350 --> 00:16:24,320 inner work yourself 413 00:16:27,509 --> 00:16:25,360 right 414 00:16:34,550 --> 00:16:27,519 exactly 415 00:16:38,310 --> 00:16:34,560 right we we we are we are in 416 00:16:40,870 --> 00:16:38,320 a a world community that has 417 00:16:41,590 --> 00:16:40,880 prescribed to two roles 418 00:16:43,749 --> 00:16:41,600 for 419 00:16:46,470 --> 00:16:43,759 i think since the beginning of our 420 00:16:49,110 --> 00:16:46,480 species being on the planet and that is 421 00:16:51,189 --> 00:16:49,120 the victim and the perpetrator 422 00:16:52,230 --> 00:16:51,199 we today we call it the victim and the 423 00:16:54,710 --> 00:16:52,240 bully 424 00:16:56,629 --> 00:16:54,720 and we either play we play one or the 425 00:16:58,150 --> 00:16:56,639 other or we do both 426 00:17:00,629 --> 00:16:58,160 and it 427 00:17:03,590 --> 00:17:00,639 as we're in this fifth dimension as we 428 00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:03,600 move further into this higher frequency 429 00:17:10,390 --> 00:17:07,360 we're watching duality split apart 430 00:17:12,630 --> 00:17:10,400 now duality is how we measure 431 00:17:14,949 --> 00:17:12,640 everything you know we go outside of 432 00:17:17,029 --> 00:17:14,959 ourselves to measure oh that's really 433 00:17:19,189 --> 00:17:17,039 good oh did you watch the news that was 434 00:17:21,510 --> 00:17:19,199 really bad it's like we're always 435 00:17:24,789 --> 00:17:21,520 measuring outside of ourselves good bad 436 00:17:27,189 --> 00:17:24,799 right wrong hot cold you know duality 437 00:17:29,350 --> 00:17:27,199 and duality as we know it this big 438 00:17:31,270 --> 00:17:29,360 measuring system that we have 439 00:17:33,110 --> 00:17:31,280 it is it's it's going to go away 440 00:17:36,150 --> 00:17:33,120 eventually it's splitting apart right 441 00:17:39,430 --> 00:17:36,160 now which is why we have you know these 442 00:17:42,230 --> 00:17:39,440 huge contrasts huge contrasts where 443 00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:42,240 something seems really super good and on 444 00:17:47,190 --> 00:17:44,160 the other hand you know someone we 445 00:17:48,710 --> 00:17:47,200 dearly love has died and it's really bad 446 00:17:51,750 --> 00:17:48,720 you know we have this 447 00:17:55,270 --> 00:17:51,760 vast experience of good and bad right 448 00:17:56,870 --> 00:17:55,280 now and i keep telling my my students my 449 00:17:57,750 --> 00:17:56,880 clients you know people that i work with 450 00:18:03,430 --> 00:17:57,760 that 451 00:18:04,470 --> 00:18:03,440 more we can go inside ourselves and find 452 00:18:11,750 --> 00:18:04,480 that 453 00:18:14,789 --> 00:18:11,760 good and bad right and wrong the 454 00:18:16,950 --> 00:18:14,799 understanding of those elements in us 455 00:18:18,390 --> 00:18:16,960 and we rely on that 456 00:18:19,510 --> 00:18:18,400 the more we're going to be able to 457 00:18:22,310 --> 00:18:19,520 survive 458 00:18:24,150 --> 00:18:22,320 this big you know breaking apart of this 459 00:18:25,990 --> 00:18:24,160 system that's been in place 460 00:18:28,950 --> 00:18:26,000 for a long long time 461 00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:28,960 a long time is it possible 462 00:18:32,870 --> 00:18:30,160 don't laugh 463 00:18:34,310 --> 00:18:32,880 is it possible to be awakened and 464 00:18:36,310 --> 00:18:34,320 complain 465 00:18:39,350 --> 00:18:36,320 right 466 00:18:44,950 --> 00:18:42,710 because i i believe that 467 00:18:47,350 --> 00:18:44,960 there's there's a language thing here 468 00:18:49,590 --> 00:18:47,360 you know what is awakened what is 469 00:18:52,230 --> 00:18:49,600 enlightenment what what are these things 470 00:18:53,990 --> 00:18:52,240 you know um my understanding of a lot of 471 00:18:56,950 --> 00:18:54,000 enlightenment is 472 00:19:00,310 --> 00:18:56,960 you know it it it is a very very tough 473 00:19:02,070 --> 00:19:00,320 road to to go down and it's not pleasant 474 00:19:04,950 --> 00:19:02,080 and there's a lot of things that a 475 00:19:08,150 --> 00:19:04,960 person will go through and suffer 476 00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:08,160 through in order to get to that place if 477 00:19:12,310 --> 00:19:09,520 they even do 478 00:19:13,430 --> 00:19:12,320 now an awakened person to me is someone 479 00:19:14,310 --> 00:19:13,440 who is 480 00:19:16,390 --> 00:19:14,320 you know 481 00:19:19,029 --> 00:19:16,400 your audience it's like someone who is 482 00:19:21,750 --> 00:19:19,039 you know awake like you understand that 483 00:19:24,070 --> 00:19:21,760 ufos and aliens exist you understand 484 00:19:25,909 --> 00:19:24,080 that there is a higher power and you 485 00:19:28,870 --> 00:19:25,919 know that there is sort of this 486 00:19:31,510 --> 00:19:28,880 spiritual uh experience that we have 487 00:19:33,830 --> 00:19:31,520 here on earth that is 488 00:19:35,510 --> 00:19:33,840 it goes way beyond any religion ever 489 00:19:38,070 --> 00:19:35,520 thought of telling us 490 00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:38,080 so so that to me is sort of the awakened 491 00:19:44,070 --> 00:19:40,480 person can they still complain sure 492 00:19:46,950 --> 00:19:44,080 because that complaining is a part of 493 00:19:49,029 --> 00:19:46,960 the human experience we're still human 494 00:19:51,909 --> 00:19:49,039 we still have bodies 495 00:19:53,990 --> 00:19:51,919 and you know i don't i don't this whole 496 00:19:56,470 --> 00:19:54,000 idea of ascension 497 00:19:57,990 --> 00:19:56,480 has never set well with me because i 498 00:20:00,230 --> 00:19:58,000 don't feel 499 00:20:03,830 --> 00:20:00,240 that that gives us 500 00:20:05,590 --> 00:20:03,840 the responsibility that we need to take 501 00:20:08,789 --> 00:20:05,600 in not being the victim or the 502 00:20:10,150 --> 00:20:08,799 perpetrator it go it takes us right back 503 00:20:13,270 --> 00:20:10,160 into some 504 00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:13,280 fairy tale of everybody ascending 505 00:20:17,830 --> 00:20:15,200 you know and i i mean 506 00:20:18,870 --> 00:20:17,840 my mind kind of explodes when i say that 507 00:20:21,029 --> 00:20:18,880 because 508 00:20:23,510 --> 00:20:21,039 the idea of ascension 509 00:20:26,710 --> 00:20:23,520 is is um 510 00:20:28,630 --> 00:20:26,720 is is taking us all away from 511 00:20:30,950 --> 00:20:28,640 our human experience 512 00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:30,960 and whether we like it or not whether 513 00:20:35,909 --> 00:20:32,960 we're really comfortable right now or 514 00:20:38,789 --> 00:20:35,919 not we have a great responsibility to 515 00:20:40,870 --> 00:20:38,799 this planet that's why we're here 516 00:20:42,789 --> 00:20:40,880 is to take care of her 517 00:20:44,950 --> 00:20:42,799 and so if we're all busy trying to leave 518 00:20:47,110 --> 00:20:44,960 our bodies and leave the planet 519 00:20:50,870 --> 00:20:47,120 what are we you know we're leaving the 520 00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:50,880 job i if i get it it'll happen tonight 521 00:20:56,870 --> 00:20:53,840 by the way uh after the show i will get 522 00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:56,880 an email i get it just about daily 523 00:20:59,990 --> 00:20:57,600 uh 524 00:21:03,029 --> 00:21:00,000 from somebody that will actually 525 00:21:05,590 --> 00:21:03,039 complain about it'll be something like 526 00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:05,600 this i'm going to paraphrase man i'm so 527 00:21:11,830 --> 00:21:08,320 tired of waiting for 5d if it doesn't 528 00:21:13,430 --> 00:21:11,840 happen this year i'm out 529 00:21:16,950 --> 00:21:13,440 right 530 00:21:19,350 --> 00:21:16,960 it's it's it's it's everybody recognizes 531 00:21:22,070 --> 00:21:19,360 it everybody understands but they've 532 00:21:24,870 --> 00:21:22,080 been hearing about it so much 533 00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:24,880 that uh i think they're expecting 534 00:21:28,789 --> 00:21:27,520 miracles right yes there's gonna be this 535 00:21:31,350 --> 00:21:28,799 5d 536 00:21:32,870 --> 00:21:31,360 radical change in absolutely everything 537 00:21:35,350 --> 00:21:32,880 on this planet and that's not the way 538 00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:35,360 it's going to happen right no no because 539 00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:38,640 see we're still not healed we're still 540 00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:41,760 in the wounded child going but but you 541 00:21:44,549 --> 00:21:43,679 promised me a popsicle when you came 542 00:21:46,710 --> 00:21:44,559 home 543 00:21:49,270 --> 00:21:46,720 you promised you know it's like boom we 544 00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:49,280 go into that inner child really fast 545 00:21:53,430 --> 00:21:51,200 because of the wounds and you know that 546 00:21:56,310 --> 00:21:53,440 that's that's the go-to place when we 547 00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:56,320 feel disappointed or let down or you 548 00:21:59,510 --> 00:21:58,559 know somehow our expectation isn't being 549 00:22:01,830 --> 00:21:59,520 met 550 00:22:05,350 --> 00:22:01,840 and uh you know i'm telling you this 551 00:22:06,789 --> 00:22:05,360 this uh fifth dimension is requiring 552 00:22:10,390 --> 00:22:06,799 everyone to 553 00:22:13,270 --> 00:22:10,400 not only show up and take responsibility 554 00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:13,280 but it's really requiring us to 555 00:22:18,230 --> 00:22:17,039 um sort of toe a much harder line in my 556 00:22:20,230 --> 00:22:18,240 opinion 557 00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:20,240 because because it's it's uncharted 558 00:22:24,950 --> 00:22:22,400 territory to me the fifth dimension is 559 00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:24,960 like a big train station and all these 560 00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:27,360 portals are opening up with all kinds of 561 00:22:31,830 --> 00:22:29,600 alien life coming through there have 562 00:22:34,789 --> 00:22:31,840 been more ufo sightings 563 00:22:36,630 --> 00:22:34,799 now than ever before and and you know 564 00:22:38,149 --> 00:22:36,640 we're we're in a train station and 565 00:22:39,990 --> 00:22:38,159 everybody's trying to figure out well 566 00:22:42,149 --> 00:22:40,000 where are you going to go which way are 567 00:22:45,590 --> 00:22:42,159 you going to go are you going to put the 568 00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:45,600 shovel down and say no i'm not working 569 00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:47,280 or are you going to pick it up and say 570 00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:48,720 nope i'm going to work even harder 571 00:22:54,070 --> 00:22:50,640 because i know 572 00:22:57,029 --> 00:22:54,080 that my responsibility for being here is 573 00:22:57,990 --> 00:22:57,039 to this planet and taking care of her 574 00:22:58,950 --> 00:22:58,000 you know 575 00:23:02,710 --> 00:22:58,960 the 576 00:23:07,590 --> 00:23:02,720 amount of sightings 577 00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:07,600 the ability to see things has never been 578 00:23:13,190 --> 00:23:09,760 easier night vision 579 00:23:15,029 --> 00:23:13,200 ce fives night watches sky watches if 580 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:15,039 you go out today 581 00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:18,240 and and patiently stand and stare at the 582 00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:19,360 stars 583 00:23:24,630 --> 00:23:22,320 you are going to see something that you 584 00:23:26,070 --> 00:23:24,640 cannot explain you're going to you're 585 00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:26,080 going to see something that doesn't 586 00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:28,000 compute in your brain 587 00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:29,919 yeah it's it's never been like that 588 00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:33,360 before no it hasn't and i have clients 589 00:23:38,390 --> 00:23:36,320 on a daily basis who are sharing with me 590 00:23:40,710 --> 00:23:38,400 you know out of the corner of my eye i 591 00:23:42,149 --> 00:23:40,720 saw this tall blue 592 00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:42,159 you know looking 593 00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:44,720 alien standing there or out you know i 594 00:23:50,470 --> 00:23:46,320 walked right across the porch in front 595 00:23:52,789 --> 00:23:50,480 of me this weird skinny uh stick like 596 00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:52,799 figure and it was real fast boom and it 597 00:23:57,190 --> 00:23:54,559 went right across in front of me on the 598 00:24:00,710 --> 00:23:57,200 porch i mean i hear this stuff all day 599 00:24:02,549 --> 00:24:00,720 long and you know i i i clear implants 600 00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:02,559 out of people i clear aliens out of 601 00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:04,799 people there's a there's a new alien 602 00:24:09,909 --> 00:24:07,360 that's come come here to the planet that 603 00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:09,919 that i call shadow aliens and 604 00:24:14,230 --> 00:24:12,159 the you know i i was told loud and clear 605 00:24:17,350 --> 00:24:14,240 that their mission is to 606 00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:17,360 take over humanity because they do not 607 00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:20,880 like how we have managed this planet and 608 00:24:25,269 --> 00:24:22,720 they're stepping into people's bodies 609 00:24:27,029 --> 00:24:25,279 and not to scare your audience but i'm 610 00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:27,039 sure they've been more scared by ex 611 00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:30,240 think of than what i've said is you know 612 00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:33,360 they they they want to inhabit humans 613 00:24:37,269 --> 00:24:35,840 and basically take over 614 00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:37,279 you know and i 615 00:24:39,990 --> 00:24:38,960 i i 616 00:24:44,630 --> 00:24:40,000 i 617 00:24:46,390 --> 00:24:44,640 for all of us 618 00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:46,400 because that kind of thing doesn't 619 00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:49,039 happen if you're conscious and you're 620 00:24:54,149 --> 00:24:51,760 dealing with being responsible and being 621 00:24:55,350 --> 00:24:54,159 here let's take it out yeah let's take a 622 00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:55,360 break 623 00:25:00,630 --> 00:24:58,480 i'm stunned so let's let's let's pick 624 00:25:02,789 --> 00:25:00,640 this up when we come back after this 625 00:25:04,870 --> 00:25:02,799 short break our guest tonight sonia 626 00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:04,880 grace this is fade to black i'm your 627 00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:06,720 host jimmy church you can follow me on 628 00:25:10,789 --> 00:25:09,360 twitter at j church radio signing what's 629 00:25:13,269 --> 00:25:10,799 your twitter 630 00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:13,279 uh sonya grace guide 631 00:25:17,669 --> 00:25:15,600 sonia grace guide we'll get it up there 632 00:25:20,149 --> 00:25:17,679 on twitter and i'll see you when we come 633 00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:20,159 back stay with us 634 00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:23,039 you're listening to a preview of fade to 635 00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:24,960 black to get the full episode go to 636 00:25:30,070 --> 00:25:27,360 jimmychurchradio.com 637 00:25:32,789 --> 00:25:30,080 and get our podcast click on the podcast 638 00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:32,799 banner or sign up in the membership area 639 00:25:37,410 --> 00:25:35,919 for downloadable mp3s everything 640 00:25:39,110 --> 00:25:37,420 commercial free 641 00:25:40,710 --> 00:25:39,120 [Music] 642 00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:40,720 welcome back fade to black our guest 643 00:25:45,029 --> 00:25:42,880 tonight sonia grace we're talking about 644 00:25:47,430 --> 00:25:45,039 her new book it is called dancing with 645 00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:47,440 raven and bear a book of earth medicine 646 00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:49,520 and animal magic 647 00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:51,840 and you can follow sonia grace on 648 00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:54,240 twitter sonya grace guide i've got it up 649 00:25:58,390 --> 00:25:56,640 there for everybody and asani right 650 00:26:00,470 --> 00:25:58,400 before the break when you mentioned 651 00:26:02,870 --> 00:26:00,480 ringing in the ears you should have seen 652 00:26:04,070 --> 00:26:02,880 twitter light up 653 00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:04,080 it was 654 00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:05,760 so that's it that's it i've got it i've 655 00:26:09,590 --> 00:26:07,440 got pretty interesting because i have 656 00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:09,600 ringing in my ears too i always 657 00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:12,640 attributed it to my life in the music 658 00:26:16,789 --> 00:26:14,480 business just listening 659 00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:16,799 you know to too much uh black sabbath 660 00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:19,919 over the years but you know could but 661 00:26:23,430 --> 00:26:21,760 i've always wondered because i've 662 00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:23,440 chilled out 663 00:26:28,789 --> 00:26:26,400 lately listening to uh loud music all 664 00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:28,799 day long i still listen to it but i also 665 00:26:34,390 --> 00:26:30,640 have headphones on at night because i 666 00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:34,400 broadcast so i wasn't sure but maybe it 667 00:26:42,149 --> 00:26:39,360 is that 5d movement now okay uh getting 668 00:26:44,549 --> 00:26:42,159 back to uh what you had said right 669 00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:44,559 before the break which is 670 00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:45,600 this 671 00:26:52,390 --> 00:26:50,480 uh 672 00:26:54,310 --> 00:26:52,400 very very interesting that was now that 673 00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:54,320 was different than the shadow aliens no 674 00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:56,080 i i picture 675 00:27:01,029 --> 00:26:58,320 was something that a client reported to 676 00:27:03,590 --> 00:27:01,039 me i i just pictured slenderman when you 677 00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:03,600 just when you described it that's that's 678 00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:06,400 okay so uh tell us about more about this 679 00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:09,120 well you know i there's i've seen so 680 00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:10,799 many because 681 00:27:15,190 --> 00:27:13,360 because of my work you know because i'm 682 00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:15,200 i'm working with people all day long and 683 00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:17,200 i'm clearing this stuff out of their 684 00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:20,480 field and and i've seen a lot of 685 00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:21,279 um 686 00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:23,520 they're not reptilians but they have a 687 00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:24,880 reptile 688 00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:27,039 look to their face 689 00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:30,240 um and uh some of them are very dark in 690 00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:32,640 color some of them have been in a 691 00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:34,960 lighter color um 692 00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:37,360 it's i mean i'm just blown away by how 693 00:27:41,590 --> 00:27:39,600 many different species 694 00:27:43,590 --> 00:27:41,600 of aliens i have 695 00:27:45,669 --> 00:27:43,600 seen and had to 696 00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:45,679 you know clear get out of somebody's 697 00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:47,760 field and and sometimes out of their 698 00:27:51,029 --> 00:27:48,720 body 699 00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:51,039 because these guys are pretty serious 700 00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:52,559 about you know 701 00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:53,520 um 702 00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:55,600 getting what they need from this planet 703 00:27:59,430 --> 00:27:57,840 as opposed to 704 00:28:01,350 --> 00:27:59,440 you know uh 705 00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:01,360 going somewhere else are they feeding 706 00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:04,159 off of are they feeding off of our 707 00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:07,360 abundant negative energy 708 00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:09,840 i think that they are 709 00:28:16,389 --> 00:28:13,120 coming here with as much of an agenda 710 00:28:18,870 --> 00:28:16,399 as the human race has an agenda i think 711 00:28:22,389 --> 00:28:18,880 that that's where we are 712 00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:22,399 not like aliens but we have a similar 713 00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:24,000 thing like some of them come here 714 00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:26,080 because they get water some of them come 715 00:28:30,149 --> 00:28:28,320 here for the natural resources 716 00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:30,159 some of them come here like these shadow 717 00:28:33,669 --> 00:28:32,000 aliens because they don't like the way 718 00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:33,679 we're managing this planet and they want 719 00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:35,520 to take it over 720 00:28:39,990 --> 00:28:37,840 but there's there's all kinds of agendas 721 00:28:42,310 --> 00:28:40,000 going on i'm just saying that you know 722 00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:42,320 we're guilty of having agendas too 723 00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:44,720 humans are sure the difference that i've 724 00:28:50,470 --> 00:28:46,320 seen with us 725 00:28:53,669 --> 00:28:50,480 is that we are very unique as a species 726 00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:53,679 because we get handed a big palette when 727 00:28:58,470 --> 00:28:56,559 we're born that has emotions you know 728 00:29:00,789 --> 00:28:58,480 it's all it's these different colors 729 00:29:02,389 --> 00:29:00,799 that are emotions and we we paint our 730 00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:02,399 reality with all these different 731 00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:04,320 feelings and emotions 732 00:29:08,870 --> 00:29:06,480 and you know you've heard numerous 733 00:29:10,389 --> 00:29:08,880 stories of grays and tall grays and 734 00:29:12,549 --> 00:29:10,399 reptilians having 735 00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:12,559 no feeling at all you know just you know 736 00:29:16,710 --> 00:29:14,799 abducting someone and you know doing 737 00:29:18,789 --> 00:29:16,720 surgery on them and not caring that the 738 00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:18,799 person is screaming you know there's 739 00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:21,120 there's no emotion there whereas we have 740 00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:22,720 lots of emotion 741 00:29:27,510 --> 00:29:24,640 and that's part of the gift and part of 742 00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:27,520 the burden of being a human is that we 743 00:29:33,029 --> 00:29:30,320 have these uh this incredible you know 744 00:29:36,389 --> 00:29:33,039 vibratory energy that are called 745 00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:36,399 feelings that connect us to each other 746 00:29:40,870 --> 00:29:39,520 it also is the very element that creates 747 00:29:43,750 --> 00:29:40,880 more karma 748 00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:43,760 because when we're connecting our energy 749 00:29:49,430 --> 00:29:46,399 with another person's energy like i'm 750 00:29:52,149 --> 00:29:49,440 angry you're angry we you know we dial 751 00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:52,159 up the whole anger thing and the karma 752 00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:54,640 wheel starts turning again because now 753 00:30:00,789 --> 00:29:57,600 now we're getting into sort of you know 754 00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:00,799 the the your your karma my karma and the 755 00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:04,000 collective karma of quote-unquote anger 756 00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:06,799 so so there was again i go back to that 757 00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:08,399 word responsibility 758 00:30:14,230 --> 00:30:11,279 the responsibility that we have to 759 00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:14,240 experience being human and feel our 760 00:30:17,669 --> 00:30:16,960 feelings but most importantly ground 761 00:30:20,950 --> 00:30:17,679 them 762 00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:20,960 ground that energy is is is 763 00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:22,880 so high right now 764 00:30:27,269 --> 00:30:25,279 because of what we're dealing with 765 00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:27,279 you know we're not we're not back in the 766 00:30:31,190 --> 00:30:28,880 fourth dimension 767 00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:31,200 you know floating down a river sipping 768 00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:34,720 margaritas yeah exactly and we have we 769 00:30:40,070 --> 00:30:37,679 have uh we have a line in the sand 770 00:30:42,870 --> 00:30:40,080 inside of the ufo community 771 00:30:47,110 --> 00:30:42,880 which uh on one side 772 00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:47,120 uh uh et is is benevolent 773 00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:49,440 they're here for us like i said earlier 774 00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:52,720 we they're here to rescue us right 775 00:30:56,549 --> 00:30:54,960 they're here to save us and then on the 776 00:30:59,510 --> 00:30:56,559 other side of the sand 777 00:31:03,110 --> 00:30:59,520 uh this is benevolence this is a bad 778 00:31:04,710 --> 00:31:03,120 situation this is they are not here for 779 00:31:08,389 --> 00:31:04,720 us 780 00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:08,399 it and and and nobody there isn't um 781 00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:11,840 there isn't a blending of the two 782 00:31:14,549 --> 00:31:13,760 on both sides let me clear this up 783 00:31:16,549 --> 00:31:14,559 because 784 00:31:17,669 --> 00:31:16,559 i i hear both sides of this fence all 785 00:31:21,269 --> 00:31:17,679 the time 786 00:31:23,830 --> 00:31:21,279 and you know if anybody sat in my job in 787 00:31:25,909 --> 00:31:23,840 my seat all day long dealing with what i 788 00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:25,919 deal with and what i can see 789 00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:27,760 um i think they might have a different 790 00:31:32,310 --> 00:31:29,440 perspective on this 791 00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:32,320 i feel that the benevolent ones the ones 792 00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:34,720 that are there to help us are the 793 00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:37,840 demigods the demigods like the the 794 00:31:41,830 --> 00:31:39,600 egyptian gods the 795 00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:41,840 the mayan gods the hopi gods the norse 796 00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:44,640 gods you know the greek gods all those 797 00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:47,760 different gods are star beans they're 798 00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:51,120 much much bigger they're 18 feet high 799 00:31:55,269 --> 00:31:53,600 you know they're super tall they're big 800 00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:55,279 they're benevolent they're right up 801 00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:57,600 there with angels you know they're 802 00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:59,279 they're they're 803 00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:01,120 they're incredible and they're the ones 804 00:32:05,909 --> 00:32:03,440 that come here and help us 805 00:32:08,710 --> 00:32:05,919 and i put the i put pleiadians in that 806 00:32:11,269 --> 00:32:08,720 same group because the pleiadians have 807 00:32:13,029 --> 00:32:11,279 had such an influence on 808 00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:13,039 our species 809 00:32:16,549 --> 00:32:14,640 from the beginning i mean it's 810 00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:16,559 incredible how much they've influenced 811 00:32:22,389 --> 00:32:19,200 us but all these different star 812 00:32:25,669 --> 00:32:22,399 star beings have come down and helped 813 00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:25,679 shape humanity at different times like 814 00:32:30,389 --> 00:32:28,559 when you know when the comets hit earth 815 00:32:31,990 --> 00:32:30,399 twelve thousand five hundred or as 816 00:32:33,350 --> 00:32:32,000 graham says twelve thousand eight 817 00:32:35,509 --> 00:32:33,360 hundred twelve thousand five hundred 818 00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:35,519 somewhere in there uh when the comets 819 00:32:38,549 --> 00:32:36,399 hit 820 00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:38,559 you know earth and and atlantis fell in 821 00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:41,760 lemuria fell we started a new phase of 822 00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:44,320 humanity and that's when all these 823 00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:47,039 portals open up from the earth kind of 824 00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:48,960 like these big beams going out to the 825 00:32:53,350 --> 00:32:51,120 universe saying okay we're ready and 826 00:32:54,230 --> 00:32:53,360 that's all the star beings start to come 827 00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:54,240 down 828 00:32:59,590 --> 00:32:56,640 the the demigods and you know when 829 00:33:02,389 --> 00:32:59,600 people wonder well well why why did you 830 00:33:04,470 --> 00:33:02,399 know why did the people start burying 831 00:33:06,789 --> 00:33:04,480 all these people next to stonehenge why 832 00:33:08,630 --> 00:33:06,799 are there these burial mounds well it's 833 00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:08,640 because the gods 834 00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:10,480 they weren't coming back when they built 835 00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:13,600 stonehenge they said this is our last 836 00:33:19,669 --> 00:33:16,960 gift to the people this is our statement 837 00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:19,679 that we will always be here with you 838 00:33:23,669 --> 00:33:22,000 and they and they were gone and so they 839 00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:23,679 started burying their people next to the 840 00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:26,159 stonehenge because as the the high 841 00:33:30,549 --> 00:33:28,240 priestesses and you know people in 842 00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:30,559 higher positions because they wanted to 843 00:33:34,389 --> 00:33:32,240 bring the gods back 844 00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:34,399 just like the mayan people you know or 845 00:33:38,950 --> 00:33:36,399 the aztec people you know anybody who 846 00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:38,960 sacrificed humans they want to bring the 847 00:33:42,470 --> 00:33:40,399 gods back 848 00:33:45,750 --> 00:33:42,480 and because the gods have always helped 849 00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:45,760 the people alien species are a different 850 00:33:49,909 --> 00:33:47,600 that's a whole different thing 851 00:33:52,870 --> 00:33:49,919 they're they're there i put them on kind 852 00:33:54,630 --> 00:33:52,880 of the same playing field as humans but 853 00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:54,640 obviously if they're flying around space 854 00:33:58,070 --> 00:33:56,480 and spaceships they're much more evolved 855 00:34:00,230 --> 00:33:58,080 than we are 856 00:34:02,149 --> 00:34:00,240 at least technology-wise you know yeah 857 00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:02,159 that's a and i think that's exactly the 858 00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:04,000 point i want to go back to what you said 859 00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:06,240 what do you mean i feel our feelings and 860 00:34:14,470 --> 00:34:11,909 i mean that 861 00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:14,480 when you get angry 862 00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:17,280 it's really important to feel that anger 863 00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:19,919 but to release that energy into the 864 00:34:23,589 --> 00:34:21,520 earth 865 00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:23,599 and you know i i have a grounding 866 00:34:28,230 --> 00:34:25,919 meditation that's the basis of all my 867 00:34:31,109 --> 00:34:28,240 work that i do and it's literally 868 00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:31,119 grounding the energy from each chakra 869 00:34:35,109 --> 00:34:33,599 into the earth and that we have this 870 00:34:38,069 --> 00:34:35,119 incredible 871 00:34:41,109 --> 00:34:38,079 connection to this planet that we are 872 00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:41,119 meant to experience and that is our 873 00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:44,079 energy connected with the earth's 874 00:34:49,270 --> 00:34:47,040 that's our first and foremost 875 00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:49,280 uh important 876 00:34:53,109 --> 00:34:51,839 connection that we need to be making and 877 00:34:56,310 --> 00:34:53,119 you know 878 00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:56,320 as a as a species we we tend to 879 00:35:00,710 --> 00:34:58,800 send our energy out into the world you 880 00:35:03,430 --> 00:35:00,720 know you walk down the street and you 881 00:35:05,829 --> 00:35:03,440 see someone you know everybody's looking 882 00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:05,839 at this person you know they're like wow 883 00:35:08,710 --> 00:35:07,760 who is this person you know and they're 884 00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:08,720 not 885 00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:10,160 maybe they're attractive maybe they're 886 00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:11,920 not but they're they're drawing 887 00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:14,079 attention and it's because their their 888 00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:16,079 second chakra energy is not grounded at 889 00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:18,480 all it's just connecting with everybody 890 00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:20,160 as they walk by 891 00:35:24,390 --> 00:35:22,480 well you know yeah i mean that's what 892 00:35:26,390 --> 00:35:24,400 that's what a lot of people do and and 893 00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:26,400 it's not that it's bad 894 00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:28,160 it's just that it's not 895 00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:30,240 it's not going to get you where you need 896 00:35:33,430 --> 00:35:32,320 to be and it's certainly not going to 897 00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:33,440 give you 898 00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:38,880 power and i mean power in the sense of 899 00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:41,440 you know a grounded understanding of who 900 00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:43,440 you are is connect connecting your 901 00:35:47,589 --> 00:35:45,119 energy to the earth 902 00:35:51,270 --> 00:35:47,599 i uh and and going back to another point 903 00:35:53,349 --> 00:35:51,280 that you just made which is this 904 00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:53,359 science today okay let's back up let's 905 00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:55,599 go let's go let's go 906 00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:58,320 75 years ago let's go back to roswell 907 00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:00,960 1947 and the 908 00:36:07,990 --> 00:36:04,240 fantastic unbelievably wonderful 909 00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:08,000 ufo flying saucer movies of the 50s 910 00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:10,320 it was our view 911 00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:11,280 that 912 00:36:16,390 --> 00:36:13,440 there it's just like 913 00:36:19,990 --> 00:36:16,400 one type of alien one type of et one 914 00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:20,000 type of culture that you know one view 915 00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:22,560 and it's kind of expanded into a couple 916 00:36:28,630 --> 00:36:24,720 or maybe a half a dozen 917 00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:28,640 science today sonia is saying that in 918 00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:33,119 our milky way there are 50 billion rocky 919 00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:35,200 planets not one 920 00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:37,599 not just earth and what that would 921 00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:42,320 indicate is earth is known to 922 00:36:49,030 --> 00:36:45,680 thousands of civilizations if not 923 00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:49,040 millions of civilizations and it's not 924 00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:53,200 one uh mindset that is visiting us 925 00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:55,599 it's it's it's a plethora 926 00:37:00,790 --> 00:36:57,760 we you know it is 927 00:37:03,190 --> 00:37:00,800 it's just not one thing that is visiting 928 00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:03,200 here it could be thousands every single 929 00:37:07,670 --> 00:37:04,560 day 930 00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:07,680 exactly and the fact you know we are so 931 00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:10,880 not trained in our eyes you know when 932 00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:13,760 you grow up it naturally in the woods or 933 00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:15,119 you know 934 00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:17,040 where there's not a lot of civilization 935 00:37:22,310 --> 00:37:19,680 around you there's just a natural world 936 00:37:23,270 --> 00:37:22,320 you attune your eyes in a way that you 937 00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:23,280 see 938 00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:32,320 you know a 100 feet off you know you you 939 00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:35,040 see the deer pass through that most 940 00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:37,200 people wouldn't you start seeing things 941 00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:39,839 that you don't normally see and and you 942 00:37:44,710 --> 00:37:42,400 know alien life my god there there 943 00:37:45,670 --> 00:37:44,720 there's so many of them that are really 944 00:37:49,109 --> 00:37:45,680 really 945 00:37:51,589 --> 00:37:49,119 good at being chameleons and completely 946 00:37:54,069 --> 00:37:51,599 disguising themselves i remember my 947 00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:54,079 husband and i were driving to the coast 948 00:37:59,349 --> 00:37:56,880 and i i and i knew there was something 949 00:38:02,550 --> 00:37:59,359 in the woods to my right i knew it i 950 00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:02,560 felt it you know i sensed it and i but i 951 00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:05,680 didn't look and i held up my iphone and 952 00:38:10,950 --> 00:38:08,320 i took a picture without looking my face 953 00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:10,960 was still facing the windshield held up 954 00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:12,640 the pit you know took the picture and 955 00:38:17,750 --> 00:38:13,760 sure enough 956 00:38:18,790 --> 00:38:17,760 in the picture there is a figure of a 957 00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:18,800 person 958 00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:21,359 and it is totally alien and it's got 959 00:38:27,109 --> 00:38:22,320 green 960 00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:27,119 it's it's like a chameleon it is it is 961 00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:29,599 literally blending in with the forest 962 00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:32,320 but you could see it i want to see it i 963 00:38:37,589 --> 00:38:35,280 know no i want to see your picture yeah 964 00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:37,599 send it to me send it to me uh uh 965 00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:40,160 sideways uh you know email off of the 966 00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:42,800 show but okay yeah i want to see that 967 00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:45,680 yeah yeah i mean i've taken pictures of 968 00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:47,680 ufos right off my backyard here in 969 00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:51,680 arizona i mean we we have so many um 970 00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:54,240 ufo sightings here in this state 971 00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:56,000 and you know i know there were lights 972 00:38:59,589 --> 00:38:58,000 that were seen just a couple days ago 973 00:39:02,390 --> 00:38:59,599 over phoenix 974 00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:02,400 and you know it's it's it 975 00:39:06,790 --> 00:39:04,560 my my adopted family on the hopi 976 00:39:09,270 --> 00:39:06,800 reservation you know they adopted me out 977 00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:09,280 there and i'm my husband's from the hopi 978 00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:11,359 reservation i mean you wouldn't believe 979 00:39:17,430 --> 00:39:14,160 the stories that these people have about 980 00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:17,440 seeing ships and how and and 981 00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:19,200 you know going to to some of the 982 00:39:24,470 --> 00:39:21,280 villages and there's you know these 983 00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:24,480 aliens walking with the people 984 00:39:29,349 --> 00:39:26,880 walking around with them this is like 985 00:39:31,510 --> 00:39:29,359 you know maybe in the in the 50s when 986 00:39:33,750 --> 00:39:31,520 that when when that happened 987 00:39:35,109 --> 00:39:33,760 but it's it's crazy i mean there's 988 00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:35,119 we were driving 989 00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:37,280 there on the mesa we're heading down the 990 00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:39,760 hill and there was a ufo that came right 991 00:39:46,230 --> 00:39:40,960 over us 992 00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:46,240 and i gasped 993 00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:48,720 and you know it's it's a drop off on one 994 00:39:51,910 --> 00:39:50,720 side of the road you don't want to you 995 00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:51,920 don't want to take your eyes off the 996 00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:52,720 road 997 00:39:57,589 --> 00:39:55,200 and my husband was just i mean i've 998 00:39:59,750 --> 00:39:57,599 never seen him look like that i mean he 999 00:40:02,390 --> 00:39:59,760 had this look on his face like 1000 00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:02,400 holy crap you know there's it and i said 1001 00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:04,400 do you see it and he said yeah i see it 1002 00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:07,200 i said okay good 1003 00:40:11,430 --> 00:40:09,280 don't you love it when that happens 1004 00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:11,440 don't you love it don't you love it rita 1005 00:40:16,310 --> 00:40:12,960 and i i'm not going to go into the full 1006 00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:16,320 story but uh rita and i have seen things 1007 00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:19,599 together a lot and and i enjoy it 1008 00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:22,560 because we get to experience it together 1009 00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:25,440 what i find strange about that 1010 00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:28,240 is that nobody else sees it like there's 1011 00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:29,119 not 1012 00:40:32,790 --> 00:40:31,040 thousands of phone calls into the police 1013 00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:32,800 station that it's not reported on the 1014 00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:37,119 news it seems that it was just for us 1015 00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:39,760 exactly i i i love it when it happens 1016 00:40:44,069 --> 00:40:42,160 but it's frustrating we had this site 1017 00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:44,079 this just like you guys 1018 00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:45,760 right we're coming out of the mountains 1019 00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:48,960 this ufo flies over our car and it 1020 00:40:54,150 --> 00:40:51,520 appears to land in van nuys 1021 00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:54,160 right right in front of us in the valley 1022 00:40:59,990 --> 00:40:57,599 and i call mufon we rush home i turn on 1023 00:41:02,550 --> 00:41:00,000 the news i'm waiting for 1024 00:41:04,870 --> 00:41:02,560 the ufo sighting of the century 1025 00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:04,880 right silence 1026 00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:06,480 crickets 1027 00:41:11,349 --> 00:41:09,200 it was an impossibility to us 1028 00:41:14,309 --> 00:41:11,359 but yeah there you go it happened just 1029 00:41:16,069 --> 00:41:14,319 it i i can't explain it and i i do enjoy 1030 00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:16,079 it when it happens that way 1031 00:41:21,190 --> 00:41:19,040 i i think it's fabulous you know i i the 1032 00:41:22,630 --> 00:41:21,200 one story that really sticks in my mind 1033 00:41:24,870 --> 00:41:22,640 is um 1034 00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:24,880 uh my dad on on the reservation he was 1035 00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:26,800 telling me that that they were driving 1036 00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:27,760 home 1037 00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:28,640 uh 1038 00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:30,400 from one end of the reservation to the 1039 00:41:33,750 --> 00:41:31,760 other and 1040 00:41:36,470 --> 00:41:33,760 and it was nighttime and it's all kind 1041 00:41:38,870 --> 00:41:36,480 of rolling planes rolling fields and 1042 00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:38,880 there was it was totally lit up on one 1043 00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:42,160 side of this of this vast landscape like 1044 00:41:46,790 --> 00:41:44,640 a big city it was just lights nothing 1045 00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:46,800 but lights and you could see these poles 1046 00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:48,240 kind of sticking up and you could see 1047 00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:51,119 people working on these poles 1048 00:41:55,990 --> 00:41:54,079 and and they pulled over and and 1049 00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:56,000 you know my mom said well i didn't know 1050 00:42:01,190 --> 00:41:58,400 they built a city out here 1051 00:42:02,790 --> 00:42:01,200 and he looked at her and he said that's 1052 00:42:05,670 --> 00:42:02,800 not a city 1053 00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:05,680 we got to go and they got in the car it 1054 00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:08,160 was a giant mothership i mean it was 1055 00:42:12,470 --> 00:42:10,240 really really big and 1056 00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:12,480 and so they went back the next day they 1057 00:42:16,950 --> 00:42:14,560 had to go back and pick something up and 1058 00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:16,960 it was gone there was nothing there 1059 00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:18,640 this was your dad 1060 00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:21,280 yeah well my adopted parents on youtube 1061 00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:23,200 reservation yeah close enough close 1062 00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:24,160 enough 1063 00:42:29,829 --> 00:42:27,359 and and how do they live through the 1064 00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:29,839 experience in that they've got to think 1065 00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:31,680 about it talk about it 1066 00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:33,680 well sure and but see they've had 1067 00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:36,000 they've they have stories and you know 1068 00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:38,880 sightings that they have experienced 1069 00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:41,599 their whole lives i mean he he remembers 1070 00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:43,760 you know seeing ships land in the 1071 00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:46,079 driveway of their ranch and as a little 1072 00:42:51,190 --> 00:42:48,880 boy laying on the on the on the knoll 1073 00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:51,200 and watching this light blink on top of 1074 00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:53,520 this ship and then getting really scared 1075 00:42:58,710 --> 00:42:56,400 and running like crazy back to the house 1076 00:43:02,390 --> 00:42:58,720 you know there's there's some really uh 1077 00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:02,400 uh there's a lot of activity especially 1078 00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:03,200 in 1079 00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:04,720 places where 1080 00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:05,680 um 1081 00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:07,520 there's not a lot of populace you know 1082 00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:10,240 it's it's it's there's a lot of activity 1083 00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:12,480 now you brought up tinnitus right that 1084 00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:13,920 you don't think that the world 1085 00:43:19,349 --> 00:43:17,359 population everybody has tinnitus yeah 1086 00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:19,359 on the same uh 1087 00:43:23,349 --> 00:43:20,640 view 1088 00:43:25,349 --> 00:43:23,359 the tens if not hundreds of millions of 1089 00:43:27,270 --> 00:43:25,359 people around the world 1090 00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:27,280 that have had sightings that have made 1091 00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:28,800 contact 1092 00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:31,280 they're not crazy either there is 1093 00:43:37,349 --> 00:43:34,319 something happening on on a on a world 1094 00:43:41,109 --> 00:43:37,359 scale isn't there yes there is 1095 00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:41,119 and and you know people are feeling it 1096 00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:45,200 um on on kind of all different levels um 1097 00:43:48,790 --> 00:43:46,560 meaning 1098 00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:48,800 there's a lot of anxiety right now 1099 00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:51,040 there's a lot of people with anxiety and 1100 00:43:56,870 --> 00:43:54,480 a lot of people who are stressing out um 1101 00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:56,880 there's a feeling of you know sort of 1102 00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:59,200 like something's coming i have i have 1103 00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:01,200 people who write me daily telling me 1104 00:44:05,349 --> 00:44:02,720 that they feel this big earthquake 1105 00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:05,359 coming and what should they do and you 1106 00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:07,680 know i mean gosh there's just so many 1107 00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:10,400 things that are sort of shifting for us 1108 00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:12,800 even if it's just in our psyche it's 1109 00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:15,040 shifting and a lot of this has to do 1110 00:44:19,750 --> 00:44:16,319 with the fact 1111 00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:19,760 that many people on the planet 1112 00:44:27,030 --> 00:44:24,079 came from and first incarnated to earth 1113 00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:27,040 during atlantis and lemuria it's like we 1114 00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:29,359 came in at the end of atlantis and 1115 00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:32,240 lemuria and so many people on the planet 1116 00:44:36,309 --> 00:44:33,920 have experienced 1117 00:44:37,589 --> 00:44:36,319 and did experience the fall of atlantis 1118 00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:37,599 and lemuria 1119 00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:38,560 and 1120 00:44:43,030 --> 00:44:40,400 you don't forget something like that i 1121 00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:43,040 mean that was major and there were land 1122 00:44:47,589 --> 00:44:45,599 masses that moved you know it was big 1123 00:44:48,550 --> 00:44:47,599 and so there's a lot of that you know 1124 00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:48,560 karmic 1125 00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:52,240 a lot of that fear 1126 00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:54,079 that runs through people because they 1127 00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:56,560 remember you know mass destruction they 1128 00:45:00,630 --> 00:44:59,040 remember that i have clients who had 1129 00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:00,640 past lives in 1130 00:45:05,109 --> 00:45:03,040 you know in 1131 00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:05,119 hiroshima when it when the bomb went off 1132 00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:07,920 in pearl harbor you know in in world war 1133 00:45:13,190 --> 00:45:10,240 ii and concentration camps i mean this 1134 00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:13,200 stuff is it's real and it stays with us 1135 00:45:19,030 --> 00:45:15,760 and it is a part of the karmic stuff 1136 00:45:20,950 --> 00:45:19,040 that we have to work out so so when 1137 00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:20,960 people feel like 1138 00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:22,800 you know something's coming and 1139 00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:25,040 something's something's happening 1140 00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:27,200 my advice to everybody is to get let's 1141 00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:30,720 go back to basics let's go back to 1142 00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:34,000 okay you know we understand that we're 1143 00:45:38,069 --> 00:45:35,440 here 1144 00:45:39,589 --> 00:45:38,079 as infinite souls having a human 1145 00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:39,599 experience 1146 00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:42,960 and there is there is fear 1147 00:45:48,069 --> 00:45:45,119 if you want to plug into fear 1148 00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:48,079 and there is no fear if you want to sit 1149 00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:50,800 in a place where you are 1150 00:45:55,270 --> 00:45:52,720 allowing 1151 00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:55,280 you know the universe creator whatever 1152 00:45:58,630 --> 00:45:56,960 everybody wants to call that higher 1153 00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:58,640 power energy 1154 00:46:12,309 --> 00:45:59,440 to 1155 00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:12,319 you know annihilated or abandoned and 1156 00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:13,920 this then brings back what you were 1157 00:46:19,430 --> 00:46:16,240 talking about the side of the fence that 1158 00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:19,440 believes all alien life is benevolent 1159 00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:22,079 okay i don't agree with that i don't 1160 00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:25,040 feel that um that all alien life is 1161 00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:26,400 coming here 1162 00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:29,200 to somehow make our lives better nor do 1163 00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:32,000 i believe that implants are going to 1164 00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:33,520 somehow 1165 00:46:37,829 --> 00:46:35,680 you know evolve us 1166 00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:37,839 for god's sakes we are 1167 00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:39,599 infinite souls 1168 00:46:44,790 --> 00:46:42,240 having a human experience if we can't 1169 00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:44,800 take responsibility and have that 1170 00:46:51,109 --> 00:46:48,240 evolutionary enlightenment experience 1171 00:46:52,630 --> 00:46:51,119 then yeah you know then we got to go 1172 00:46:54,309 --> 00:46:52,640 back through the playbook and see where 1173 00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:54,319 we're missing the point well that's 1174 00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:57,359 exactly the point and ancient cultures 1175 00:47:00,550 --> 00:46:59,520 you know before technology before modern 1176 00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:00,560 history 1177 00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:04,240 ancient cultures fully understood this 1178 00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:06,400 fully embrace this you brought up 1179 00:47:12,309 --> 00:47:09,280 shamans earlier and and the hopi culture 1180 00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:12,319 not only uh here with the indigenous 1181 00:47:16,390 --> 00:47:14,640 cultures in the united states but it was 1182 00:47:19,750 --> 00:47:16,400 all around the world going all the way 1183 00:47:22,630 --> 00:47:19,760 back to mesopotamia in ancient egypt and 1184 00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:22,640 beyond and before that 1185 00:47:27,829 --> 00:47:25,280 and we've lost exactly we've lost that 1186 00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:27,839 that that vision that that contact of 1187 00:47:31,910 --> 00:47:28,880 ourselves 1188 00:47:36,309 --> 00:47:31,920 yes yes we have and and we've really uh 1189 00:47:40,710 --> 00:47:36,319 it this time right now reminds me a lot 1190 00:47:42,390 --> 00:47:40,720 of you know 4000 bc when you know when 1191 00:47:44,309 --> 00:47:42,400 when everybody's starting to get 1192 00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:44,319 squirrely because the demigods aren't 1193 00:47:51,670 --> 00:47:47,520 coming back and and there there's a lot 1194 00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:51,680 of power shift going on between uh women 1195 00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:53,760 you know the the high priestesses having 1196 00:47:58,870 --> 00:47:56,240 all the power to shifting over to the 1197 00:48:00,710 --> 00:47:58,880 men and the druid practice and all of 1198 00:48:03,510 --> 00:48:00,720 that i mean that that was a whole kind 1199 00:48:05,109 --> 00:48:03,520 of wave that took over as well 1200 00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:05,119 and and we 1201 00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:08,160 you know we have so much memory 1202 00:48:14,069 --> 00:48:11,200 and and people may not like recognize us 1203 00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:14,079 but we we have such a deep 1204 00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:16,960 memory of stuff in our soul body that 1205 00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:18,000 when we 1206 00:48:23,829 --> 00:48:21,200 fear 1207 00:48:25,750 --> 00:48:23,839 we can we can tap into that i mean i'm 1208 00:48:27,349 --> 00:48:25,760 sure your listeners have have had 1209 00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:27,359 experiences where 1210 00:48:31,349 --> 00:48:29,200 you know you've gone to italy and you've 1211 00:48:33,670 --> 00:48:31,359 always wanted to go and you just feel so 1212 00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:33,680 at home there or you know you've always 1213 00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:35,839 wanted to go to the grand canyon and you 1214 00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:37,920 you know you you feel home when you when 1215 00:48:41,750 --> 00:48:40,480 you set eyes on that place it's like we 1216 00:48:44,069 --> 00:48:41,760 we have 1217 00:48:46,630 --> 00:48:44,079 past lives in many places around the 1218 00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:46,640 planet and and those those memories are 1219 00:48:50,309 --> 00:48:48,640 there we just have to be able to get in 1220 00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:50,319 there and access that 1221 00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:52,079 and when i do pass live readings for 1222 00:48:56,069 --> 00:48:53,520 people i really 1223 00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:56,079 try to help them not only understand 1224 00:49:01,430 --> 00:48:58,800 what that was about but to resolve what 1225 00:49:03,430 --> 00:49:01,440 the karmic piece is to that because 1226 00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:03,440 you know a lot of our lives we we died 1227 00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:05,440 violently you know we had our heads 1228 00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:07,520 chopped off or we were burned or you 1229 00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:10,640 know we died in war we died in battle 1230 00:49:17,190 --> 00:49:12,480 we haven't been the most peaceful 1231 00:49:18,870 --> 00:49:17,200 species yet no no no no no i've often uh 1232 00:49:21,430 --> 00:49:18,880 uh talked about 1233 00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:21,440 if i lived in england you know out in 1234 00:49:27,190 --> 00:49:23,440 the countryside somewhere right just 1235 00:49:28,870 --> 00:49:27,200 just out out in the green rolling hills 1236 00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:28,880 take a good peek 1237 00:49:33,030 --> 00:49:32,079 because there was a violent battle that 1238 00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:33,040 happened 1239 00:49:39,589 --> 00:49:36,720 in that yard yes yes think about the 1240 00:49:41,109 --> 00:49:39,599 power of what is going on there let's 1241 00:49:43,190 --> 00:49:41,119 take a break right here when we come 1242 00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:43,200 back uh sonia i actually want to talk 1243 00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:46,240 about the last few days 1244 00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:47,680 we're talking about past lives and 1245 00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:50,160 regression the last couple of days i've 1246 00:49:55,589 --> 00:49:53,839 had the most insane deja vu's insane 1247 00:49:57,910 --> 00:49:55,599 we'll talk about all that when we come 1248 00:50:00,069 --> 00:49:57,920 back our guest tonight sonia grace we're 1249 00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:00,079 talking about her new book dancing with 1250 00:50:05,430 --> 00:50:03,359 raven and bear a book of earth medicine 1251 00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:05,440 and animal magic this is fade to black 1252 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